{"id":17364,"date":"2018-11-20T18:08:48","date_gmt":"2018-11-20T17:08:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/?p=17364"},"modified":"2018-12-21T16:45:56","modified_gmt":"2018-12-21T15:45:56","slug":"stan-a-rejoint-steve","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/stan-a-rejoint-steve\/","title":{"rendered":"Stan a rejoint Steve"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-7743\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/leninjacapseur.png\" alt=\"leninjacapseur\" width=\"290\" height=\"123\" data-id=\"7743\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Rhonda m&rsquo;a dit d&rsquo;\u00e9crire un billet sur Stan Lee d\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9 r\u00e9cemment. Il a donc rejoint Steve Ditko, d\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9 en juin de cette m\u00eame ann\u00e9e. Les deux cr\u00e9ateurs de Spiderman sont partis. Elle m&rsquo;a dit d&rsquo;\u00e9crire des trucs originaux et de geeks. Alors moi j&rsquo;ai dit : \u00ab\u00a0Ok, Rhonda!\u00a0\u00bb. Donc dans ce billet, je vous file des trucs de geeks.<\/p>\n<p>Avant de commencer, parlons de Joan Boocok Lee. C&rsquo;est elle, sa femme, qui, \u00e0 40 ans, lui a dit de faire un truc de sa vie et d&rsquo;abandonner son m\u00e9tier de t\u00e2cheron o\u00f9 il faisait des sc\u00e9narii de Bd sur un peu tout et n&rsquo;importe quoi. C&rsquo;est \u00e0 partir de cet instant que Stan Lee cr\u00e9a tous ses superh\u00e9ros. Donc elle est l&rsquo;instigatrice de l&rsquo;univers Marvel. Elle est l&rsquo;\u00e9tincelle. C&rsquo;\u00e9tait tr\u00e8s important d&rsquo;en parler.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Stanley Lieber (dit Lee) avec sa femme Joan. Une grande pens\u00e9e pour elle, d\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9e en juillet 2017.<\/p>\n<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-17366\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/DEHK2SyXYAA88pu-850x850.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"850\" height=\"850\" data-id=\"17366\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/DEHK2SyXYAA88pu-850x850.jpg 850w, https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/DEHK2SyXYAA88pu-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/DEHK2SyXYAA88pu-144x144.jpg 144w, https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/DEHK2SyXYAA88pu.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>On commence. Dans Spiderman, les auteurs \u00e9taient Stan Lee et Steve Ditko. Puis apr\u00e8s est apparu Gerry Conway, qui rempla\u00e7a Stan. Mais il y a une chose qui a toujours \u00e9t\u00e9 constat\u00e9 est que le nom du sc\u00e9nariste devan\u00e7ait \u00a0toujours le nom du dessinateur. Dans la 1er page de chaque \u00e9pisode de Spiderman, c&rsquo;est Stan lee qui \u00e9tait toujours \u00e9crit en premier devant Steve Ditko. \u00a0Et bien, 1 seule fois, cela a \u00e9t\u00e9 le contraire. Le nom de Steve Ditko a pr\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9 celui de Stan Lee. C&rsquo;\u00e9tait l&rsquo;\u00e9pisode 16, Strange 23 (en France), page 61. Avec pour la 1er fois le m\u00e9chant Scorpio!<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-17367\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Spider5-850x1133.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"850\" height=\"1133\" data-id=\"17367\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Spider5.jpg 850w, https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Spider5-768x1024.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>On aborde le personnage de Gwendoline Stacy. Elle appara\u00eet la 1er fois dans l&rsquo;\u00e9pisode 26 (Strange 29, page 69), puis elle navigue dans les \u00e9pisodes jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 ce que Peter Parker sort avec elle, o\u00f9 elle devient omnipr\u00e9sente. Ce qui caracat\u00e9rise Gwen Stacy, est sa coupe de cheveux blonde, avec de longues m\u00e8ches lisses. Mais on constate que lors des premiers dessins, elle a des coupes de cheveux diff\u00e9rentes. Steve Ditko trouve enfin sa coupe de cheveux la plus c\u00e9l\u00e8bre dans l&rsquo;\u00e9pisode 42, Strange 45 , page 67. Peter Parker, dans cet \u00e9pisode, la f\u00e9licite \u00a0d&rsquo;ailleurs.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-17368\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Spider8-850x1035.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"850\" height=\"1035\" data-id=\"17368\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Spider8.jpg 850w, https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Spider8-768x935.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Si Gwen Stacy d\u00e9c\u00e8de dans l&rsquo;\u00e9pisode 111 (Strange 104) \u00a0et son p\u00e8re, George Stacy, le meilleur ami de Peter, meurt dans un \u00e9pisode pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent (\u00e9pisode 84, Strange 87), il faut savoir que Spiderman les avait sauv\u00e9s de justesse dans l&rsquo;\u00e9pisode 55 (Strange 58, page 78). Cocasse.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-17369\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Spider7-850x1191.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"850\" height=\"1191\" data-id=\"17369\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Spider7.jpg 850w, https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Spider7-768x1076.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Dans cette pleine page lors de la mort de Gwen (\u00e9pisode 112 &#8211; Strange 104- page 61) , on note son fameux serre-t\u00eate noir. \u00a0Au d\u00e9but, elle porte une casquette rouge, puis elle utilise ses lunettes plus ou moins de soleil pour tenir ses cheveux. Puis apparait un serre-t\u00eate \u00e0 pois, puis un bandeau noir, puis enfin ce serre-t\u00eate noir d\u00e9finitif (Strange 53, \u00e9pisode 50), mais sur cette pleine page, une chose m&rsquo;a intrigu\u00e9. Gwen et Peter s&#8217;embrassent. Je fais appel \u00e0 vous, chers lecteurs. J&rsquo;ai feuillet\u00e9 mes magazines, mais vous comprenez je n&rsquo;ai pas relu tous les \u00e9pisodes de Spiderman jusqu&rsquo;au n\u00b0104 de Strange. Si vous pouviez v\u00e9rifier : je crois que c&rsquo;est la 1er fois qu&rsquo;on les voit s&#8217;embrasser. En g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, ils s&rsquo;enlassent, ils se disputent beaucoup, mais je n&rsquo;ai trouv\u00e9 aucune sc\u00e8ne o\u00f9 ils s&#8217;embrassent. Et oui, on ne pouvait repr\u00e9senter une baiser surtout entre deux jeunes non mari\u00e9s (qui d&rsquo;ailleurs ne vivaient pas ensemble. Peter \u00e9tait le co-locataire de Norman). \u00c0 v\u00e9rifier, chez lecteurs.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-17370\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Spider4-850x1133.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"850\" height=\"1133\" data-id=\"17370\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Spider4.jpg 850w, https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Spider4-768x1024.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Chose amusante dans les magazines Strange : \u00a0l&rsquo;\u00e9pisode 111, \u00e9pisode du d\u00e9c\u00e8s\u00a0de Gwen, paru dans Strange 104, affiche une pleine page, qui se retrouvera sur la pochette du Strange 105. Pourquoi? Pour ne pas spoilier. Le Strange 104 montre une sc\u00e8ne de l&rsquo;\u00e9pisode d&rsquo;Iron Man et c&rsquo;est le Strange 105 qui affiche l&rsquo;\u00e9pisode de Spiderman (avec la mort de Gwen), mais cette sc\u00e8ne a lieu dans le num\u00e9ro pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent 104. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-17371\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/spidey-850x638.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"850\" height=\"638\" data-id=\"17371\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/spidey-850x638.jpg 850w, https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/spidey-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/spidey.jpg 1333w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>On termine par 2 trucs. Gerry Conway remplace d\u00e9fitivement Stan Lee lors de l&rsquo;\u00e9pisode 104 de Spiderman (Strange 100), mais le nouveau sc\u00e9nariste a \u00e9t\u00e9 pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 par Stan dans l&rsquo;\u00e9pisode pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent 103. On note un trait d&rsquo;humour, vu que Stan ne pr\u00e9sente plus dans l&rsquo;\u00e9pisode suivant 105 (Strange 101). C&rsquo;est Roy Thomas qui pr\u00e9sente. \ud83d\ude42 Roy Thomas, Conan&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-17372\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/spider2-850x567.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"850\" height=\"567\" data-id=\"17372\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/spider2.jpg 850w, https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/spider2-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Pour finir, l&rsquo;univers Marvel a rencontr\u00e9 tr\u00e8s peu de fois l&rsquo;univers DC. Dans ce <em>Superman contre Spiderman<\/em>, l&rsquo;homme de Krypton rencontre le monte-en-l-air. Ce one-shot est dessin\u00e9 par Big John (J.Buscema) et sc\u00e9naris\u00e9 par Jim Shooter. Jim Shooter , excellent sc\u00e9nariste, mais.. C&rsquo;est sous sa direction que Marvel changea son business plan en contr\u00f4lant tout, d&rsquo;amont en aval, de l&rsquo;impression au lieu de vente. Et ce business model s&rsquo;est crash\u00e9 et a coul\u00e9 Marvel, qui sera rachet\u00e9 par d&rsquo;autre squi vont mettre en avant le marchandising et cr\u00e9er la franchise Marvel au cin\u00e9ma. Sans Jim Shooter, au final, pas de Spiderman par Sam Raimi, pas de X-Men par Bryan Singer. Pas d&rsquo;Avengers, pas de Captain America, pas de Thor, pas de Black Panther, pas de &#8230; Et pour finir pas de cam\u00e9o de Stan Lee.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-17373\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/spider1-850x1061.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"850\" height=\"1061\" data-id=\"17373\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/spider1.jpg 850w, https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/spider1-768x959.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Voil\u00e0, nous avons rendu hommage \u00e0 Stan Lee \u00e0 travers le personnage de Spiderman. On a parl\u00e9 du d\u00e9c\u00e8s de Gwen Stacy, qui, il faut le pr\u00e9ciser, avait perdu de son aura aupr\u00e8s des lecteurs au profit de Marie-Jane, puisque Marvel avait constat\u00e9 que les GI au Vietnam pr\u00e9f\u00e9raient la personne de MJ, plus moderne, plus sexy, plus militante, alors que Gwen faisait fille \u00e0 papa des ann\u00e9es 60. Ce qui acc\u00e9l\u00e9ra sa disparation. On termine par l&rsquo;astuce de Stan Lee pour se souvenir des noms de tous ses super-h\u00e9ros : il donnait les m\u00eames initiales au pr\u00e9nom et au nom. Peter Parker pour Spiderman, Bruce Banner pour Hulk, Matt Murdock pour Daredevil, Red Richard des 4 Fantastiques, etc&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Pour finir, voici l&rsquo;\u00e9pilogue de la mort de Gwen Stacy. Certainement, la page la plus terrible de Spiderman. On a oubli\u00e9 cette sc\u00e8ne malheureusement. Mon devoir est de la r\u00e9habiliter. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-17374\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/spider3-850x1133.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"850\" height=\"1133\" data-id=\"17374\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/spider3.jpg 850w, https:\/\/www.vincenwoo.com\/vincenwoo\/site_wacom_et_mapomme\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/spider3-768x1024.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rhonda m&rsquo;a dit d&rsquo;\u00e9crire un billet sur Stan Lee d\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9 r\u00e9cemment. 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